Comments on: The Future of Detroit Can Be Seen in Brazil http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2008/07/31/the-future-of-detroit-can-be-seen-in-brazil/ A Future Look at Today Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:38:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Nicole Tedesco http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2008/07/31/the-future-of-detroit-can-be-seen-in-brazil/comment-page-1/#comment-65173 Nicole Tedesco Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:38:29 +0000 http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/?p=260#comment-65173 The reason the automobile manufacturing is taking place in Brazil (amongst other non-US locations) is because manufacturing labor is cheaper there. The problem the Brazilians have in the long run is that the cost of manufacturing labor will continue to fall in the long run due to the pressure of automation, so much so that even the Brazilian economy will not be able to sustain it. Unfortunately to see the future of Brazilian automobile manufacturing one should actually drive the streets of Detroit and look at the abandoned infrastructure as well the depressed population who continues to live there. The future of Brazil is actually on the streets of Detroit. The reason the automobile manufacturing is taking place in Brazil (amongst other non-US locations) is because manufacturing labor is cheaper there. The problem the Brazilians have in the long run is that the cost of manufacturing labor will continue to fall in the long run due to the pressure of automation, so much so that even the Brazilian economy will not be able to sustain it. Unfortunately to see the future of Brazilian automobile manufacturing one should actually drive the streets of Detroit and look at the abandoned infrastructure as well the depressed population who continues to live there. The future of Brazil is actually on the streets of Detroit.

]]> By: jiimiona http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2008/07/31/the-future-of-detroit-can-be-seen-in-brazil/comment-page-1/#comment-64769 jiimiona Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:26:48 +0000 http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/?p=260#comment-64769 Viva La Evolucion ;) Viva La Evolucion ;)

]]> By: jiimiona http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2008/07/31/the-future-of-detroit-can-be-seen-in-brazil/comment-page-1/#comment-64635 jiimiona Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:27:19 +0000 http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/?p=260#comment-64635 Very nice. Very nice.

]]> By: Steven Earl Salmony http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2008/07/31/the-future-of-detroit-can-be-seen-in-brazil/comment-page-1/#comment-64325 Steven Earl Salmony Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:26:10 +0000 http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/?p=260#comment-64325 The Wreck of the Old 97 in 2008? Dear Wayne, You report, “Vaclav Havel never did choose to stand up and pull the ’stop’ cord on the train!” But, Wayne, the colossal train is adding cars and accelerating its speed as it proceeds down the track. There is no engineer on the train. Everyone has gone below to stoke the furnace so that the train goes faster and faster. Where it will stop, or how, nobody knows. Conventional wisdom indicates the track is clear ahead and without an endpoint. Widely shared and consensually validated thinking assures everyone on board this train that we can add more and more cars to the train and continuously stoke its furnace with fossil fuels so that the train can keep going at an increasing speed as long as we have fuel to keep the train going. There are no limits to the speed the train can achieve, no limits to the number of cars the engine can pull, and no end to the railroad track. Everything is going as planned and will continue without interruption indefinitely. Wayne, if this train is a metaphor for the ever manmade global political economy, could you help us understand how magical thinking, arrogance, pyramid-type schemes and greed are governing the seemingly endless growth of the global economy and how the unbridled increase of the leviathan-like global economy cannot be sustained much longer by a relatively small, evidently finite, noticeably frangible planet with the size and make-up of Earth? And what of the ’stop’ cord on the train, Wayne? I can see it, but cannot yet see how pulling it will do any good because there is no engineer in control. Do you think Vaclav Havel could see that the engine room must have been empty for a long time? Sincerely, Steve Steven Earl Salmony AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001 The Wreck of the Old 97 in 2008?

Dear Wayne,

You report,
“Vaclav Havel never did choose to stand up and pull the ’stop’ cord on the train!”

But, Wayne, the colossal train is adding cars and accelerating its speed as it proceeds down the track. There is no engineer on the train. Everyone has gone below to stoke the furnace so that the train goes faster and faster. Where it will stop, or how, nobody knows. Conventional wisdom indicates the track is clear ahead and without an endpoint. Widely shared and consensually validated thinking assures everyone on board this train that we can add more and more cars to the train and continuously stoke its furnace with fossil fuels so that the train can keep going at an increasing speed as long as we have fuel to keep the train going. There are no limits to the speed the train can achieve, no limits to the number of cars the engine can pull, and no end to the railroad track. Everything is going as planned and will continue without interruption indefinitely.

Wayne, if this train is a metaphor for the ever manmade global political economy, could you help us understand how magical thinking, arrogance, pyramid-type schemes and greed are governing the seemingly endless growth of the global economy and how the unbridled increase of the leviathan-like global economy cannot be sustained much longer by a relatively small, evidently finite, noticeably frangible planet with the size and make-up of Earth?

And what of the ’stop’ cord on the train, Wayne? I can see it, but cannot yet see how pulling it will do any good because there is no engineer in control. Do you think Vaclav Havel could see that the engine room must have been empty for a long time?
Sincerely,

Steve

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001

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